Grayson Perry: 'my audience is the well-educated left-leaning middle classes. So I make them suffer for that'

Let us be clear. Grayson Perry does not do stand up.

"I did this lecture at the Southbank and Sandi Toksvig said to me, 'You should do stand up'. I don't call it stand up though. I'm not one of these people that stands over the mic and tries to get a laugh every 15 seconds," he tells me, seated in his Islington studio, a tatty desk and a couple of steaming mugs of instant coffee between us. "I do go for the laughs though. Definitely."

The laughs, if his conversation is anything to go by, are plenty in his latest project, his fourth touring one-man show, which lands at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane in London next Tuesday. Grayson Perry: A Show All About You sounds, from his description, like part-musical comedy, part-TED talk, part-twitter-baiting nightmare.

"It's got songs. It's got audience interaction. I make them download an app so I can ask them a question and they can vote on things and send word clouds onto a screen. We do quiz as well, and ask them to put their hands up, because I like that,