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Listen: ‘You Think of Things You Shouldn’t’

Perspective can change a lot in a month.  

James Hamblin met Bootsie Plunkett in March while filming a segment for The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, where he answered her questions about COVID-19. A few weeks later, she was diagnosed with the virus—and soon, she was in the ICU.

On this episode of Social Distance, Plunkett joins Hamblin and Katherine Wells to talk about experiencing the terror of a hospital during a pandemic, and how much a person’s perspective can change in a month.

Listen to the episode here:

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What follows is an edited and condensed transcript of their conversation.

Katherine Wells: Before you and Jim went on Colbert, did you think it was just going to be a fun segment? Or were people around you already seriously concerned about the virus?   

We knew about coronavirus. We heard about it on the news, but it hadn't really started up here yet, so we weren't

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