SUMMARY The conversation revolves around the topic of when it is time to leave a martial arts school. The hosts discuss two main categories: the desire for more and the presence of issues. Under the desire for more, they mention wanting to explore different martial arts styles, seeking more advanced training, or wanting to progress in rank beyond what the current school can offer. Under the presence of issues, they mention physical or sexual abuse, cult-like behavior, a punishment-focused culture, and being taken advantage of financially or in terms of time. They emphasize the importance of open and respectful communication between students and instructors. When it's time to leave a martial arts school, it can be due to various reasons such as dishonesty, lack of clear expectations, stagnant growth, and instructors who lack passion. It is important to have open and clear communication with the instructor before making the decision to leave. Having a conversation or writing a letter can help provide closure and potentially lead to positive changes in the school. It is crucial to be respectful and considerate of other students when leaving, and not to compromise their experience. Ultimately, the decision to leave should be based on personal feelings and integrity. TAKEAWAYS * There are two main reasons to leave a martial arts school: the desire for more and the presence of issues. * The desire for more can include wanting to explore different martial arts styles, seeking more advanced training, or wanting to progress in rank beyond what the current school can offer. * The presence of issues can include physical or sexual abuse, cult-like behavior, a punishment-focused culture, and being taken advantage of financially or in terms of time. * Open and respectful communication between students and instructors is crucial in addressing concerns and making decisions about leaving a school. * It is important to remember that leaving a school does not mean leaving martial arts altogether; it is about finding a better fit for personal growth and development. Open and clear communication is essential before leaving a martial arts school. * Having a conversation or writing a letter can provide closure and potentially lead to positive changes in the school. * Respect and consider the impact of your departure on other students. * The decision to leave should be based on personal feelings and integrity.