One of the world’s best-known sports promoters Eddie Hearn chats to some of the biggest names in sport, entertainment and business, including Rio Ferdinand, Canelo Alvarez and Amelia Dimoldenberg. He’ll learn about their passions, what gets them up in the morning, and how they built their successful careers.

This week, Eddie’s first in-person interview since series one is with his dad, Barry Hearn. Barry has been chairman of Matchroom Sports since its foundation, and has recently announced his retirement, with Eddie taking the reins. They talk about how Barry turned a small chain of snooker halls into a sporting empire, how his passion has kept him working up to the age of 73, and how he will spend his retirement.

No Passion, No Point is produced by Gwyn Rhys Davies, and is a BBC Studios Production for BBC Radio 5 Live. Listen now on BBC Sounds.