We begin by imagining a world where children are separated by sex at birth and raised without exposure to traditional gender norms. We debate whether gender incongruence is a result of nature or social conditioning. We discuss gender affirming care for children, highlighting the complexity of diagnosing gender dysphoria amidst co-occurring psychiatric conditions and the potential influence of social contagion. Key insights include questioning the lack of robust evidence for the efficacy of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, and the need for comprehensive psychosocial care before considering medical transition. The Cass Review was released after we recorded our conversation, but we address similar concerns.
 
00:00 Introduction to the Thought Experiment
00:10 Exploring Gender Segregation and Its Impacts
02:22 Debating the Existence of Gender Incongruence
03:28 The Social Construction of Gender and Its Medical Implications
04:48 Sexual Orientation in a Segregated Society
13:37 Challenging the Medicalization of Gender Diversity
25:26 Transracialism and Personal Identity Choices
31:41 Medical Risks and Ethical Dilemmas in Gender Transition
41:38 Exploring the Regulation of Cross-Sex Hormones
42:11 The Uncertainty of Medical Interventions and Autonomy
44:49 The Complexities of Gender Dysphoria Treatment
45:43 Evaluating the Risks and Benefits of Paediatric Transition
48:39 The Debate on Consent and Medical Ethics
51:38 Addressing Comorbidities in Gender Dysphoria Treatment
58:45 The Role of Social Phenomena in Gender Dysphoria
01:11:17 Examining the Evidence and Ethics of Puberty Blockers

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