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COMIC CONNECTIONS: Captain Marvel - Death and Indignity be Damned
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Released:
Oct 11, 2023
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Episode 66 - Captain Marvel - Death and Indignity be Damned
This week’s topic is the early years of Carol Danvers in the comics as we prepare for a re-watch of 2018’s Captain Marvel, starring Brie Larson and Samuel L Jackson.
This Week In Comics
Marvel Reveals the New Ultimate Avengers Team
https://comicbook.com/comics/news/marvel-reveals-the-new-ultimate-avengers-team/
New on Marvel Unlimited this Week
https://www.marvel.com/comics/calendar/week/2023-10-08
Recommendation: Superhero Culture Wars: Politics, Marketing and Social Justice in Marvel Comics by Monica Flegel & Judith Leggatt
https://www.comicbookyeti.com/post/superhero-culture-wars
This Week's Stack
Marvel Super-Heroes #13
Ms. Marvel #1
Avengers #200
Uncanny X-Men #164
Captain Marvel (2012) #1-6
2 Minute Recap and Discussion Topics
Marvel Super-Heroes #13
Carol starts as a woman in a position of power. Unusual for the time.
Ends up as a potential love interest of Mar-Vell, much like Lois Lane was to Superman at the time.
Ms. Marvel #1
Carol’s new look and attitude very much based on Gloria Steinem, who also co-founded Ms. Magazine (featuring Wonder Woman on the first issue).
The callback to 1940s Captain Marvel was a nice touch
Quickly got her memory issues sorted out. Changed costume in #19. Series ended with #23.
Spider-Man and Mary Jane cameos
Duane is not a fan of the black-outs and how this story hints at what is obviously going on.
Avengers #200
Lots of writers and yet...
Super messed up. Very weird and sexist. No idea what the writers were trying to accomplish, but nothing about this story sat right.
Almost immediately this story was recognized to be super messed up.
Chris Claremont tried to fix things a bit in Avengers Annual #10 by giving Carol a chance to lay into the team
Uncanny X-Men #164
The Brood are the worst. Look very much like the alien from Alien or the Gorn on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
New powers are radiation based, and are top-notch. Makes her one of the most powerful people in the Marvel Universe.
Had been with the X-Men since Prof X helped her get her memories back
Captain Marvel (2012) #1-6
Saved the best for last
Standing on the shoulders of two giants - the previous Captain Marvels and earlier female pilots
Ultimately Danvers herself gets to decide if she wants to keep the life she has (with powers) or change her fate and go without. Very Empowering
The new costume: https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/captain-marvel-got-new-costume-bet/
Final Thoughts
Correspondence
We're going to be migrating Phases of the Moon Knight over to Comics Over Time as Season 1. Just in case you get some of those episodes in your feed.
What's Next
Captain Marvel from 2019.
Signoff
Questions or comments
We'd love to hear from you! Email us at questions@comicsovertime.com or find us on Twitter @comicsoftime.
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Music Intro and Outro created by Lesfm.
This week’s topic is the early years of Carol Danvers in the comics as we prepare for a re-watch of 2018’s Captain Marvel, starring Brie Larson and Samuel L Jackson.
This Week In Comics
Marvel Reveals the New Ultimate Avengers Team
https://comicbook.com/comics/news/marvel-reveals-the-new-ultimate-avengers-team/
New on Marvel Unlimited this Week
https://www.marvel.com/comics/calendar/week/2023-10-08
Recommendation: Superhero Culture Wars: Politics, Marketing and Social Justice in Marvel Comics by Monica Flegel & Judith Leggatt
https://www.comicbookyeti.com/post/superhero-culture-wars
This Week's Stack
Marvel Super-Heroes #13
Ms. Marvel #1
Avengers #200
Uncanny X-Men #164
Captain Marvel (2012) #1-6
2 Minute Recap and Discussion Topics
Marvel Super-Heroes #13
Carol starts as a woman in a position of power. Unusual for the time.
Ends up as a potential love interest of Mar-Vell, much like Lois Lane was to Superman at the time.
Ms. Marvel #1
Carol’s new look and attitude very much based on Gloria Steinem, who also co-founded Ms. Magazine (featuring Wonder Woman on the first issue).
The callback to 1940s Captain Marvel was a nice touch
Quickly got her memory issues sorted out. Changed costume in #19. Series ended with #23.
Spider-Man and Mary Jane cameos
Duane is not a fan of the black-outs and how this story hints at what is obviously going on.
Avengers #200
Lots of writers and yet...
Super messed up. Very weird and sexist. No idea what the writers were trying to accomplish, but nothing about this story sat right.
Almost immediately this story was recognized to be super messed up.
Chris Claremont tried to fix things a bit in Avengers Annual #10 by giving Carol a chance to lay into the team
Uncanny X-Men #164
The Brood are the worst. Look very much like the alien from Alien or the Gorn on Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
New powers are radiation based, and are top-notch. Makes her one of the most powerful people in the Marvel Universe.
Had been with the X-Men since Prof X helped her get her memories back
Captain Marvel (2012) #1-6
Saved the best for last
Standing on the shoulders of two giants - the previous Captain Marvels and earlier female pilots
Ultimately Danvers herself gets to decide if she wants to keep the life she has (with powers) or change her fate and go without. Very Empowering
The new costume: https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/captain-marvel-got-new-costume-bet/
Final Thoughts
Correspondence
We're going to be migrating Phases of the Moon Knight over to Comics Over Time as Season 1. Just in case you get some of those episodes in your feed.
What's Next
Captain Marvel from 2019.
Signoff
Questions or comments
We'd love to hear from you! Email us at questions@comicsovertime.com or find us on Twitter @comicsoftime.
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Music Intro and Outro created by Lesfm.
Released:
Oct 11, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode
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