To Jen Croneberger, it’s easy for many in society to spend a lot of time planning to do big things but not always carrying out those plans. Taking an “if/then response approach” to life prevents accomplishing big goals, and so Croneberger advises people to take big leaps, even if they’re uncertain about having a safety net. That’s one of several leadership concepts discussed on this JofA podcast episode. Croneberger, an author and consultant, is the keynote speaker June 17 at the AICPA & CIMA Not-for-Profit Industry Conference. In this conversation, she previews that session, explains the words behind the acronym BRAVE, and shares the importance of human-focused leadership in an AI-driven world. Croneberger also responds to the topic of a JofA episode from April 2022 about how belief differs from arrogance. What you’ll learn from this episode: ·         A preview of Croneberger’s keynote session at the AICPA & CIMA Not-for-Profit Industry Conference in June. ·         Why leadership is “a behavior, not a title.” ·         Some of the ways she applies a sports background to her role as a consultant. ·         Why Croneberger likes the leadership advice “Go before you’re ready.” ·         How we can use digital devices to improve self-care. ·         The importance, in Croneberger’s mind, of speaking openly about topics such as depression.