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Episode 5: "New Paradigms, New Values"

Episode 5: "New Paradigms, New Values"

FromNeuroDiving


Episode 5: "New Paradigms, New Values"

FromNeuroDiving

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44 minutes
Released:
Dec 11, 2023
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Podcast episode

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We’re rounding off our little mini-series on “theory of mind” in autism research with episode 5: “New Paradigms, New Values.”You can find a (not Substack-generated) transcript of the episode, as well as a music-free remix, here.We will be on hiatus over the holidays, while we cook up some more episodes about the relationship between empathy and autism. But in the meantime, I’ll continue to post here occasionally to let you all know about other fascinating audio projects that tackle issues related to autism and disability.“New Paradigms, New Values”In the last several episodes, we’ve explored the bizarre history of autism research focusing on “theory of mind deficits.” So at this point, you’re probably wondering: “where do we go from here?”We don’t have all the answers, but in this episode, Travis and Joe—from the previous episode—describe some fascinating new avenues for autism research, which promise to help us understand autistic perspectival differences without invoking so-called “theory of mind deficits.” Plus, Travis compares the two most common paradigms in autism research (the “pathology paradigm,” and the “neurodiversity paradigm”), and offers some advice for folks who want to start reading up on the philosophy of autism.Topics Discussed* A potential problem with our critique of “theory of mind deficit” research: some autistic people find the theory of mind deficit view of autism helpful for making sense of challenging experiences. (00:29)* A reminder about the problems associated with the “theory of mind deficit” view of autism; in particular, the view dehumanizes autistic people. (02:41)* Problems with Barnbaum’s influential book The Ethics of Autism (2008), which assumes the theory of mind deficit view of autism. (04:05)* But again, some autistic people find the “theory of mind deficit” view of autism helpful. (05:54)* So, we need good alternatives for understanding and talking about autistic social differences. (07:41)* The bad news: there’s no single unifying “theory of autism” that can simply replace the “theory of mind deficit” view. (08:25)* The good news: there are several alternative research programs that promise to help us better understand autistic people’s experiences with perspective-taking. (09:07)* A sociological alternative: the double empathy problem. (10:16)* A psychological alternative: monotropism. (12:20)* Monotropism isn’t just “an autistic thing.” (15:41)* Why the double empathy problem and monotropism could both be true (they’re not in competition with each other). (17:06)* A physiological alternative: differences in interoception. (19:04) * What all of these alternative theories have in common: they don’t have to frame autism in terms of deficits. This focus reflects a shift in value assumptions in autism research. (21:13)* Science can’t avoid making some value-laden assumptions. Feminist philosophers of science have been talking about this issue for decades. (22:12)* An example of a value assumption in science and medicine: “classic” heart attack symptoms. (25:02)* Travis contrasts the “pathology paradigm” in autism research with the “neurodiversity paradigm” in autism research. (25:51)* Travis gives an example of how the pathology paradigm can distort autism researchers’ interpretation of data. (29:12)* We shouldn’t merely “study autistic differences”; we need to study autistic differences with the ultimate goal of improving autistic people’s well-being, all while paying close attention to what autistic people say they need. (With a quick call-back to Chloe Farahar.) (33:07)* Travis explains how philosophy can contribute to autism research. (36:21)* But philosophers need to be careful! Travis has advice. (37:50)* Look-ahead to our next topic: empathy and autism. (40:26)Sources Mentioned* Barnbaum, The Ethics of Autism (2008).* Milton, “On the ontological status of autism: the ‘double empathy problem’,” Disability and Society, Volume 27, Issue 6 (2012). https://kar.kent.ac.uk/62639/1/Doub
Released:
Dec 11, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode