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File Early or File Late - The "Big" Social Security Question

File Early or File Late - The "Big" Social Security Question

FromLeibel on FIRE


File Early or File Late - The "Big" Social Security Question

FromLeibel on FIRE

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15 minutes
Released:
Feb 22, 2023
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Podcast episode

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Should you delay filing for Social Security or claim early, discover the surprising answer that trips most retirees up and can get you up to 175% more in benefits.
Can You Really Increase Your Social Security Benefits by 175%?
Yes! You absolutely can. In fact, if you don't believe me go to the social security website, pull up your statement and look on the bottom left of it. It has a whole list of all the people who can get benefits under your work history. And on there it says the maximum family benefit, which is 175%. Of your social security. So there are all these people, which includes your spouse, your surviving spouse, children, parents. There's a long list of people who can get paid on your work history.
Once you start factoring in those other "family" benefits, it can really start adding up. And no, you don't have to be dead in order for most of them to claim these benefits!
Isn't Delaying The Only Way to Increase Social Security Benefits?
If you read any financial magazine or newspaper it would be easy to believe that delaying benefits is the only way to increase your social security check...but that simply isn't the case. And while simple statement sound great, and they make for great click bait headlines...the truth is that maximizing your social security check is about so much more.
It isn't about "delaying as long as possible," or your "break-even" point, or auntie IRMMA. All those thing make great headlines, but they have nothing to do with your reality. This is what I tell every single person. Unless you're single, unmarried, and don't have kids, delaying social security benefits is probably not your best option. And even if you're single unmarried it still might not be your best option.In fact, I just told a couple this morning to both file early, even though it reduce their benefits by a significant amount. I told them to take early because it would take the pressure off of their portfolio, and would make their retirement last so much longer.And in fact, it added something like a million dollars to their retirement savings over the next 20 years just by taking social Security early. So the answer is really different for everyone, and you really, you gotta map it out to find out what is the ideal filing age for both you and your spouse.
What About "File & Suspend?"
It used to be you had your social security benefits, and you also could get benefits under someone else's benefits, such as your spouse. You were also able to tell Social Security, Hey, listen, I'm gonna claim my spousal benefits, but I want my personal benefits to continue to delay and accrue deferral credits. Allowing both spouses to max out their benefits.
...But congress took this benefit away in what I call a "stealth tax."  Congress created a rule called the "deemed filing" rule.This rule, ostensibly was to close the loophole of all these people who are taking advantage of the social security system and doing things like this file and suspend. When in reality what they did was take away benefits that you earned.Now, the only way they can get those spousal benefits is if both you and your spouse file for social security. So now, the breadwinner needs to figure out when do they file, and then the secondary spouse, the one who was, staying at home with the kids who didn't have that big grade income. They really need to figure out whether to file, file early or file late. And so this becomes a huge calculus that you gotta think about is not just, my benefits when I'm living, but my benefits when I die. And the benefits of my children, or my dependent parents who can also claim on my social security. And oftentimes, claiming a little bit early will end up actually getting you more lifetime money than if you delay and get a a bigger personal check.
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Released:
Feb 22, 2023
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