Journalist, political correspondent and academic Haviv Rettig Gur sits down with Eylon Levy for a deep dive into the conflict’s clashing narratives. Together, they decode both the Israeli and Palestinian versions of the creation of the state of Israel, how the Arabs saw the Jews, how the Jews saw themselves, and the problem of historical revisionism. Mostly, Haviv and Eylon try to answer the key question: what do we wish the Palestinians understood about us?Join our mailing list at www.stateofanationpodcast.comFIND US ON X (Twitter): https://twitter.com/stateofapodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/stateofapodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556030695001 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/state-of-a-nationView more of Haviv’s work at: https://www.timesofisrael.com/writers/haviv-gur/