In this episode, A'ndre and Ryan talk to Ronald Marks about the Congress-Intelligence Community relationship. Ron, who  is a 38-year veteran of the IC, served as CIA Senate Liaison and Intelligence Counsel on Capitol Hill, among other positions. This conversation dives into the interests and perspectives of each institution, as well as Ron's experiences on both sides. Ron also provides his assessment of the success of Congressional oversight and the changes oversight committees should consider.  Ron is currently a Visiting Professor at George Mason University's Schar School of Policy and Government.