In this engaging episode we dive into the fascinating world of conservation and the oil/gas industry. Our special guest, Paul Ulrich, Vice President of Jonah Energy LLC and former President of the Petroleum Association of Wyoming, brings a unique perspective to the table as an avid fly fisher, outdoorsman and hunter. What makes this episode truly captivating is the refreshing synergy between the seemingly contrasting realms of environmental conservation and the energy sector. Paul Ulrich sheds light on the untapped potential for collaboration between these two sectors. He passionately discusses the numerous positive contributions that the oil/gas industry can make and have made to conservation efforts, challenging the stereotypes often associated with it. One of the highlights of this episode is the deep dive into the Rock Springs Management plan, where both Paul and Josh actively participate on the Governor's task force. Their insights provide valuable perspectives on how diverse stakeholders can come together for the benefit of our environment. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding the intricate relationship between industry and conservation. It reminds us that, in the pursuit of preserving our wild places and wild things, cooperation and innovative solutions can lead to a brighter future for our planet. Join us in exploring this inspiring dialogue and share this podcast to spread the message of harmony in nature.  Don't miss out on furthering the journey with Wild Things & Wild Places. Become a member of the Muley Fanatic Foundation and help make a difference. Join an organization that gets things done. Find out more here.