“If it doesn’t have privacy then it’s not worth using, and if it’s not easy to use then people aren’t going to use it, and so we won’t need scale.”— John LightJohn Light is a bitcoin researcher working on product at Sovryn and previously the ZK-Rollup Research Fellow at the Human Rights Foundation. In this interview, we discuss rollups on Bitcoin, privacy & scaling and scaling bitcoin in a self sovereign way.- - - - This episode’s sponsors:IREN - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably Swan Bitcoin - Invest in Bitcoin with SwanBitcasino - The Future of Gaming is hereLedger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware walletCheatCode - Bedford, UK - April 12-13OpenSats - Support free and open source contributorsPlebLab - Startup Day - March 14 2024-----WBD780 - Show Notes-----If you enjoy The What Bitcoin Did Podcast you can help support the show by doing the following:Become a Patron and get access to shows early or help contributeMake a tip:Bitcoin: 3FiC6w7eb3dkcaNHMAnj39ANTAkv8Ufi2SQR Codes: BitcoinIf you do send a tip then please email me so that I can say thank youSubscribe on iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher | SoundCloud | YouTube | Deezer | TuneIn | RSS FeedLeave a review on iTunesShare the show and episodes with your friends and familySubscribe to the newsletter on my websiteFollow me on Twitter Personal | Twitter Podcast | Instagram | Medium | YouTubeIf you are interested in sponsoring the show, you can read more about that here or please feel free to drop me an email to discuss options.