Sometimes, the best way to understand the mind of a serial killer is to play chess with them. Dr. Ramsland’s job as a forensic psychologist is to develop relationships with serial killers to study how they think. She believes understanding the minds of the most dangerous predators in society is necessary for taking informed, protective measures against this threat. Hear a 5-time graduate student, professor, bestselling author and forensic psychologist detail the deep-rooted murderous fantasies, arrests, and victims of famous serial killers BTK and Ed Kemper.Follow Dr. Katherine Ramsland on X and Facebook @KatRamslandRegister Now for AmericaFest, Turning Point USA’s largest multi-day conservative gathering in the country, and use promo code POPLITICS.Try fresh squeezed juice packed with quality natural ingredients, a delicious taste, and filled with nutrients by visiting Squeezed Juice and using code ALEX for 25% off.Get 100% Organic tampons & now PADS! Try GARNUU today and use code ALEX for 15% off.Go to Nimi Skincare and use promo code ALEXCLARK to get 10% off your order.Looking for like-minded friends? Join the Cuteservative Facebook group.Listen at 9 PM PST/ MIDNIGHT EASTERN every Thursday by subscribing to ‘The Spillover’ on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ☕️✨Support the show