Bronwen Maddox is joined this week from Jakarta by Professor Burhanuddin Muhtadi, executive director of the Indonesian polling organization Indikator Politik Indonesia, and Dewi Fortuna Anwar, a former advisor to Indonesia’s Vice President and chair of Indonesian think tank, The Habibie Center. Joining them all is Ben Bland, the director of our Asia-Pacific program at Chatham House. Read our latest: ‘Continuity’ Prabowo means change for Indonesia Indonesia’s Democracy Is Stronger Than a Strongman (Foreign Affairs) Indonesia’s elections: new president, new parliament, same old politics? Presented by Bronwen Maddox. Produced by John Pollock. Follow Chatham House on Bluesky ?  Subscribe to Independent Thinking wherever you find your podcasts - please listen, review and subscribe.