I spent an hour and a half with Nathan Labenz, who went deep with me on using ChatGPT to:

Save days of time on programming projects

Boost his creativity

Provide access to limitless expertise


We covered both the practical and philosophical, including:

Using AI in copilot versus delegation mode

How ChatGPT relieves the hidden drudgery of creative work

Prompting techniques to maximize your thought partnership with ChatGPT

How he believes AI will do for cognitive labor what the Industrial Revolution did for manual labor


Nathan is an expert and one of the most interesting thinkers in AI today. I’m excited to share his thinking with you—like, comment, subscribe, and share if you liked this episode.