The MacVoices Live! panel of Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Jim Rea, Eric Bolden, Jeff Gamet, Mark Fuccio Web Bixby and special switcher guest James Baraniak have some doubts about one of Masimo’s latest claims in the Apple Watch dispute. A discussion about alternatives and pricing to Apple Watch-based pulse oximeters, patent disputes, and patent realities ensues. This edition of MacVoices is supported by Coda, your all-in-one collaborative workspace. Get started with Coda for free and get a $1,000 credit at: https://Coda.io/macvoices. Show Notes: Chapters: 0:02:20 Apple's Legal Battle and the Merits of the Case 0:06:52 Apple's Controversial $100 Million Decision 0:09:17 Discrepancy in determining Apple's infringement without court decision 0:13:11 Similarities between Engineering and Science Patents 0:15:32 Curiosity about Apple's Claims and Patent Strategy 0:17:07 The Watches Removed from Sale without Trial 0:20:12 The Impact of ITC Ruling on Apple and Masimo 0:28:07 The Evolution of the Apple Watch band controversy Links: Masimo has spent $100 Million In Its Legal Battle With Apple https://appleworld.today/masimo-has-spent-100-million-in-its-legal-battle-with-apple/ The Entrepreneur Who Bet His Company on a Fight With Apple  https://www.wsj.com/tech/joe-kiani-entrepreneur-apple-warning-52eb09a9?st=9mwwi6y1k48bwtb&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink Apple Watch ban will boost Biden mega-donor whom president calls ‘one of my closest friends’ https://nypost.com/2023/12/28/news/apple-watch-ban-will-boost-joe-biden-mega-donor-joe-kiani/   Guests: Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon      http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:      http://macvoices.com      Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner      http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Mastodon:      https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner      Facebook:      http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner      MacVoices Page on Facebook:      http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/      MacVoices Group on Facebook:      http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice      LinkedIn:      https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/      Instagram:      https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:      Audio in iTunes      Video in iTunes      Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:      Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss      Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss 00:00:00 Apple Watch Ban and Reversal 00:02:19 Apple's Legal Battle and the Merits of the Case 00:06:52 Apple's Controversial $100 Million Decision 00:09:17 Discrepancy in determining Apple's infringement without court decision 00:13:10 Similarities between Engineering and Science Patents 00:15:31 Curiosity about Apple's Claims and Patent Strategy 00:17:07 The Watches Removed from Sale without Trial 00:20:11 The Impact of ITC Ruling on Apple and Masimo 00:28:06 The Evolution of the Apple Watch band controversy