This MacVoices Live! session wraps up as Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Jim Rea, and Warren Sklar continue their disagreement over the Apple Wallet app being able to be removed from the iPhone. That leads to a discussion of Apple Pay and other mobile payment platforms being available on competing platforms, and why that isn’t necessarily a good idea. The panel wraps up covering the announcement that Spotify is getting into audiobooks and how they are trying to differentiate the offering. (Part 3)  This edition of MacVoices is supported by NordVPN. Get secure and private access to the Internet with a special deal at NordVPN.com/macvoices. This edition of MacVoices is supported by Kolide. Kolide is a fleet visibility solution for Mac, Windows, and Linux that can help you securely scale your business. Learn more here. Show Notes: Links: Spotify dives into audiobooks with a library of over 300,000 titleshttps://www.engadget.com/spotify-audiobooks-us-130051256.html Spotify’s Audiobook Pricing Puts it in the Middle of the Packhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-09-22/spotify-s-audiobook-pricing-puts-it-in-the-middle-of-the-pack Guests: David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65. Jim Rea has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim on Twitter. Warren Sklar helps host the Mac to The Future Group on Facebook, and is the co-host of In Touch With iOS with David Ginsburg. Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon     http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:     http://macvoices.com      Twitter:     http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner     http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner      MacVoices Page on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/      MacVoices Group on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice      LinkedIn:     https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/      Instagram:     https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:      Audio in iTunes     Video in iTunes      Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:      Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss      Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss