If you lift & shift to the cloud or move things back from the cloud to on-premise you most likely didn’t understand cloud and how it can help you transform your business and organization. A bold statement but very much true so as we learn in our conversation with Mike Kavis, Chief Cloud Architect at Deloitte.Mike (@madgreek65) has been in technology for 35+ years and was an early adopter of cloud technology as early as 2007 when AWS only had about 6 APIs. He has launched several startups and is now helping organizations to rethink what cloud means for them!Listen in to this podcast and learn why organizations fail if they don’t understand that cloud is about agility, it’s a platform for innovators and that traditional IT teams have to transform into internal cloud providers that provide services to their development teams for them to deliver better business value faster.Mike also runs his own podcast – you may want to listen in to the episode he recorded with Andi on Speeding up Digital Transformation with Cloud Native.https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikekavis/https://twitter.com/madgreek65https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/consulting/articles/digital-transformation-requires-a-cloud-native-mindset-cloud-computing-cloud-value-devops-noops-aiops-software-development-business-value.html