On the heels of our 20th anniversary collaboration with SF-based design and manufacturing company DSPTCH, Johan & Andrew chat with the company's founder, Rich Liu about his journey towards starting his own brand, the challenges he's overcome along the way and what makes him passionate about creating durable, functional goods. We also look back on our friendship over the years and how that makes for the best kinds of collaborations.
Our theme music is by ⁠GLOM⁠.

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