Jay Clouse is a podcaster and creator. He is the host of Creative Elements, a show with over 1 million downloads (in just than 2 years). In today's interview, he talked about how to create unique messaging, his MOAT method, what it was like to work with Pat Flynn, how his voice is so silky smooth, and much more. Topics: (0:00) Intro (0:25) How Jay helped his dad plant trees (4:30) Why Jay's 1 year of journalism was his most impactful (6:43) Inverted pyramid (style of writing) (10:55) Turning blog posts into books (14:05) "Lifestyle of an author" (17:13) Timeless principles of creators (The MOAT Method) (22:43) Messaging as a creator (24:47) Working with Pat Flynn (30:02) The highs and lows of being a creator (35:12) Living on $24,000/year (38:00) How does it feel to look back on it? (39:50) Winning a negotiation (41:50) Origin of money story problem (43:20) How to get over the money story? (44:22) Jay's podcast changing his money story (46:54) Jay's silky smooth voice (51:20) Day-to-day energy levels (52:34) Work like a lion (54:23) Repurposing ideas (58:40) Cold emailing (The Rule of One Scroll) (1:03:13) Growth for podcasters and creators (1:11:24) Connecting with Jay Jay's Links Podcast / Newsletter / Twitter Continue the conversation with me... ? Podcast: https://podfollow.com/1532160275/view ? Twitter: https://twitter.com/heydannymiranda ? Instagram: https://instagram.com/heydannymiranda ? TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@heydannymiranda ? Newsletter: https://dannymiranda.com/tuesday-treasure/