Join hosts Tom Davies and Kate Hutchinson as they chat with Dead Oceans record label founder Phil Waldorf and Secretly Group founder Chris Swanson for a peak behind the curtain at the label's sixteen-plus years. Discover the backstory of the label pre-streaming, inspired by the simple idea of crate digging at a record store and the joys of fandom, to the monumental successes shared by the artists, including Phosphorescent, Phoebe Bridgers, Japanese Breakfast, Shame, Mitski and so many more, over the years. The episode explores the label owners' experiences from "scrappy operations" to housing famed stars of the indie alternative zeitgeist. Links: Secretly Society Podcast Link Dead Oceans Episode Link to Playlist  Secretly Society Podcast Store Link Secretly Society General Information Link Dead Oceans Link