LitJoy owners Kelly and Alix interview two powerhouse New York Times best-selling authors and best friends, Cassandra Clare and Holly Black!Cassandra Clare is the author of the #1 New York Times, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, and Publishers Weekly bestselling Shadowhunter Chronicles. She is also the co-author of the bestselling fantasy series Magisterium with Holly Black. Her books have sold more than fifty million copies in print worldwide. Cassandra lives in western Massachusetts with her husband and three fearsome cats. Find her at cassandraclare.comHolly Black is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of fantasy books, including the novels of Elfhame, The Coldest Girl in Coldtown, the Spiderwick Chronicles, and her adult debut, Book of Night. She has been a finalist for an Eisner Award and the Lodestar Award, and the recipient of the Mythopoeic Award, a Nebula, and a Newbery Honor. She lives in New England with her husband and son in a house with a secret library. She invites you to visit her online at blackholly.com.In this episode:Cassie & Holly, the beginning of a beautiful friendship [2:57]Writing at home vs. writing away & how to spark creativity [7:27]Workshopping each other's writing [12:04]Irritating edits, DON'T KILL SIMON! [16:00]"Write drunk, edit sober" [18:33]Favorite characters from each other's works [19:10]Hanging out with the Ragpicker King from Sword Catcher [21:30]Prioritizing peace & finding time for yourself [31:27]Write Holly a letter! [34:38]Cassie & Holly discuss their hardest books to write [45:54]"The perfect kind of fame" [50:44]Cassandra Clare is a pen name [53:00]What Cassie & Holly are working on now [56:15]What Cassie & Holly are reading right now [57:17] Books mentioned in this episode:Books by British sci-fi and fantasy author, Tanith LeeFaeries by Allan Lee and Brian Froud bookStarling House by Alix E. Harrow bookThe Murderbot Diaries series by Martha Wells bookA House with Good Bones by T. Kingfisher bookWhat Moves the Dead by T. Kingfisher bookThe Heroine with 1001 Faces by Maria Tatar bookWhat's Next?Subscribe to our email Follow us on IG @litjoycrate and TikTok @litjoycrateShop LitJoy's officially licensed Holly Black and Cassandra Clare Collections!Use code PODCAST10 at litjoycrate.com/podcast for 10% off! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.