Aug 26 / 2023
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Welcome to Episode 6 of the Zero Rights Reserved video podcast, in which hosts Toady Hawk and Joshua Fisher from The Noun Square Media Collective sit down with Nate Angell from Creative Commons to chat about how his organization created the very licensing protocol that allowed Nouns to be built — CC0.
 
We delve into the history of copyright, and the delicate balance to strike between protecting creators and the public good. We also talk about the intersection of blockchain and licensing, and the important daily work of the Creative Commons Org.
 
But don’t worry, it’s not all serious— we also keep it pretty weird with “The Nounicles of Nounlandia” and not just one but, inexplicably, 5 separate mentions of fax machine technology.
 
As with all our content, this recording is CC0… So please, Copy This Content.
 
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TIMESTAMPS:
 
0:00 - Teaser: I think Joshua is lying.
0:18 - ZEROPOD Intro
01:26 - The Nate Angell origin story
3:16 - Open Educational Resources vs. The Big Textbook Grift
5:30 - Joining the Commons
6:21 - The Fax Saga: Chapter 1
8:37 - The Creative Commons Licenses
9:41 - The Fax Saga: Chapter 2
11:56 - What is Creative Commons?
14:45 - Open Source licensing, but for content.
16:17 - Joshua The Reappearing Man
16:29 - Comic Book Collection Show and Tell
18:57 - Copyright Strikes This Podcast
20:44- The History of Copyright
23:00 - The Copyright Tradeoff
27:09 - The Mickey Mouse Rule
28:16 - What is CC0?
28:48- How does blockchain affect this dynamic
30:30 - Nate on the Nouns Experiment
31:03 - Welcome to Nounlandia
32:40 - Can a brand become ubiquitous faster with open licensing?
34:36 - Nouns: A Movie
37:57 - CC0 in the Context of Education and Science Research
42:20 - The Nonicles of Nounlandia
42:45 - Should works ever automatically go into the Public Domain?
44:32 - Striking the balance
46:17 - The difficulty for artists of making something popular
48:30 - CC0 is an Experiment Too
48:52 - CC0 is actually not a License
49:46 - Special Guest
50:19 - A Day in the Life of Creative Commons work
52:54 - A Day in the Life Part 2
53:59 - AI and Copyright
54:37 - Open Climate Campaign
55:50 - Josh’s Hot Take: No Such Thing as Big Brains
57:29 - The Fax Saga: Chapter 3
59:17 - Copyright as a protector of the gatekeepers
61:01 - Is Creative Commons looking at Smart Contracts?
63:50 - How can Creative Commons stay ahead of the curve?
65:01 - Sustainability and the Future of Creative Commons
68:25 - Nate on Nouns (Again)
69:07 - The Fax Saga: Chapter 4
70:40 - Crypto is like Camping
72:34 - What’s up with Opepen?
73:41 - The Fax Saga: Chapter 5
73:50 - Toady Explains Opepen
76:59 - Opepen and Nouns: The Power of CC0 + LoFi Art
79:14 - Outro
 
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Podcast recorded and edited by Toady Hawk.
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