Matt and Rob are joined by veteran board game and RPG designers, Elizabeth Hargrave and Sen-Foong Lim, to discuss the Tabletop Game Designers Association, a new trade organization for tabletop creatives of all types. The TTGDA will advocate, educate, and fight for living wages in our community and will need your solidarity! Learn more and sign-up for updates on the TTGDA here at ttgda.org Guests: Elizabeth Hargrave is the Kennerspiel des Jahres award-winning designer of numerous games including Wingspan, The Fox Experiment, and Mariposas. Her kickstarter for Undergrove, a game about how mushrooms and trees are friends, is live right now! Sen-Foong Lim is Gold ENnie award-winning designer whose credits include Jiangshi: Blood in the Banquet Hall, the Revenant Society, Avatar: Legends, Mind MGMT, Dungeons & Dragons: Rock Paper Wizard, and Junk Art.  Fundraisers: Meguey Bakerhttps://www.mealtrain.com/trains/lk908w?rf=1 Jennell Jayquays https://www.gofundme.com/f/jennell-jaquays-has-a-long-road-back Music: Pac Div - Roll the Dice; Hazel Dickens - They'll Never Keep Us Down Check out the DMofNone Patreon! Join us on Discord!