Lauren Sneade talks to Thane Gustafson about the future of Russian oil through the climate crisis and the context of the ongoing war in Ukraine. Gustafson is a professor of political science at Georgetown University, and an author of numerous books about Russia's fossil fuel dependence, the most recent being 2021's Klimat: Russia in the Age of Climate Change. Lauren and Professor Gustafson discuss the question: is Putin promoting a geopolitical narrative of Russian supremacy over the country’s national economic future?Further readingBuy Klimat: Russian in the Age of Climate Change  from Havard University Press.Professor Gustafson's Substack.'Russia can no longer ignore the threat posed by climate change', LSE Blog, January 2022Part 1 and  Part 2 of a Washington Post interview with Professor Gustafson in September 2022. Click here to visit The Future Unrefined, our curated collection of articles and podcasts on raw materials and extraction. Find more podcasts and articles at www.landclimate.org