In this episode, Claudia talks to Angie Pepper about cosmopolitanism. Angie explains how cosmopolitans think about justice as being global in scope. However, despite their expansive view of justice, cosmopolitan thought still doesn’t adequately account for animals. They discuss the challenges of including animals in such an expansive view of justice and mull over what entitlements they should have. They end with a discussion about the politics of pet keeping.  Date Recorded: 24 August 2023.  Angie Pepper is a Senior Lecturer in Philosophy at the University of Roehampton in London. Angie's philosophical background is in contemporary political philosophy, applied ethics, normative ethics, and feminist philosophy, and her recent research focuses on what we owe to other animals. She has published papers on the place of nonhuman animals in our theorising about global justice, and on what we owe to them as a matter of climate justice. She has also defended the following claims (among others): that sentient nonhuman animals have a right to privacy, that few nonhuman animals are political agents, that sentient nonhuman animals have a right to self-determination, that non-euthanasia killing in animal shelters is sometimes morally permitted, and that we shouldn't support zoos. Angie's latest projects focus on the normative significance of nonhuman animal agency; in other words, what other animals do and why it matters morally, socially, and politically. She is especially interested in whether domestication is compatible with animals' interests in self-determination and the demands of justice. Angie is a regular contributor to Justice Everywhere. You can learn more about Angie’s work on Research Gate.   Featured: Beyond Anthropocentricism: Cosmopolitanism and Nonhuman Animals by Angie PepperWhat comes after entanglement by Eva Haifa GiraudDominance and Affection: The Making of Pets by Yi-Fu TuanAnimals as Persons: Essays on the Abolition of Animal Exploitation by Gary FrancioneThank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast; Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, and Jeremy John for the logo; Virginia Thomas for the Animal Highlight. This episode was edited by Christiaan Mentz and produced by the host Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder. A.P.P.L.E Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E)Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showThe Animal Turn is hosted and produced by Claudia Hirtenfelder and is part of iROAR Network. Find out more on our website.