While I do understand that there may be this idea out there, that the OBL is some magical place, the truth is that I think the ideal scenario is what I have—which is practicing on both sides of the street, so to speak. Because they each pose their own challenges and they each have their own benefits. —Bret Wiechmann, MD, FSIRWarren Krackov, MD, FSIR, speaks with interventional radiologist Bret Wiechmann, MD, FSIR, about how he launched his office-based laboratory (OBL), how other IRs might do the same, and the prospects for trainees to enter this space. Note: This episode was recorded on  July 20, 2021.Contact us with your ideas and questions, or read more about about interventional radiology in IR Quarterly magazine or SIR's Patient Center.(c) Society of Interventional Radiology.Support the show