Shonda Rhimes is the prolific and disruptive force behind Grey’s Anatomy, How To Get Away with Murder, Scandal, Private Practice, and Bridgerton - some billions of hours of television viewed. She broke records at ABC as a writer, producer and showrunner before becoming one of Netflix’s most successful creators. She talks to Martha about the secrets of making addictive television, the characters she still misses, and the tough choices that come with an ambitious life. You won’t want to miss these powerhouse women in conversation.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.