If you follow Martha very closely, you may know that she is one of the legions of puzzle players who obsessively play The New York Times’ word games. The NYT launched its famous crossword puzzle in 1942. Now, 81 years later, they are paying serious attention to the business of games. Sudoku. Wordle. Spelling Bee. Tiles. As the news organization grows its digital portfolio of games, waves of puzzle players are signing up. Martha is delighted to talk word games with Will Shortz, The New York Times Crossword Puzzle Editor, and Everdeen Mason, the first-ever Editorial Director of Games at The New York Times. Listen in as they discuss how puzzles are constructed, the origin of Sudoku, their favorite Wordle “starter words,” and so much more.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.