In the latest episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers", host Tony Brueski sat down with renowned Defense Attorney Bob Motta, also known for his contributions to the podcast "Defense Diaries". The two delved deep into the recent controversies surrounding therapist Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. The revelations, which have stunned many, pertain to Hildebrandt’s questionable approach to counseling and allegations of potential harm caused to patients.
 
 "Numerous people have claimed that they sought help from Jodi Hildebrandt, only to face further destruction of their marriages and relationships," shared Tony, setting the backdrop. Indeed, some of these claims also hint at a possible bias of Hildebrandt against men.
 
 Motta was prompt to weigh in: "When they're given bad advice that they know their patients are going to more likely than not incorporate into their own lives, I think there could be some liability there." He elaborated that there could be multiple avenues of legal action, including claims for intentional infliction of emotional distress or civil fraud. "The question is, can you make the case?" he pondered.
 
 However, the key concern, as both the host and Motta discussed, was the feasibility of such suits. While there seems to be potential for victims to file a case against Hildebrandt, the practicality of recovering damages remains uncertain, given the financial standing of the accused. Motta noted that while anyone can sue, assessing the depth of pockets is often the first step for a plaintiff's counsel. Yet, there's no doubt that the implications are serious, especially considering the emotional vulnerability of patients seeking counseling.
 
 Then came the discussion of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt’s charges. "Child abuse is a very serious thing," Tony highlighted, noting the frequency with which such cases appear before courts and sometimes the shockingly lenient punishments that follow. Motta, being careful not to preempt the court’s judgment, did indicate the gravity of the situation. "It's serious charges. The things that they have in their favor are the fact that they probably don't have any criminal background," he said. This could possibly influence the final decision, especially considering that every case has its nuances.
 
 Motta further added perspective on how certain parenting choices might or might not fall within the statute's definition of abuse, citing the example of a child being responsible for making her own sandwich. "I don’t know that's child abuse. Like, I would never personally do that with my kid," he said. This draws attention to the thin line between parenting styles and potential harm to a child.
 
 In summary, while the podcast episode did not conclude on a specific note about the potential outcomes for Franke and Hildebrandt, it did bring up important questions surrounding accountability in professional roles, especially in sensitive areas like counseling. As with any high-profile case, the repercussions are multifaceted, and the outcomes can set precedents for similar cases in the future.
 
 Given the complexity and sensitivity of such issues, one can’t help but ponder: How does society strike a balance between trust in professionals and accountability for potential harm?
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