Paul Rahe, Charles O. Lee and Louise K. Lee Chair in the Western Heritage at Hillsdale College, and author of Sparta's Sicilian Proxy War: The Grand Strategy of Classical Sparta, 418-413 BC, joins the show to talk about proxy wars, the strategy of Sparta, and the role of regimes in the shaping of foreign policy.
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    •    01:37 Introduction 
    •    06:43 Donald Kagan
    •    08:32 The Spartan point of view
    •   11:59 Why change the perspective?
    •    17:30 Sparta’s goals
    •    24:59 Why does Sparta matter? 
    •    31:56 “Putin’s completely irrational”
    •   33:56 Is Realism dangerous?
    •    39:17 Why do the Athenians go to Sicily?
    •    44:35 Alcibiades
    •    47:06 Could the Athenians have won?
    •    49:11 The significance of victory
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