Jonathan Kirshner, Professor of Political Science and International Studies at Boston College and author of An Unwritten Future: Realism, Uncertainty, and World Politics, joins the show to discuss realism and realists.
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• 01:40 Introduction
• 02:25 What is Realism?
• 07:10 The birth of modern Realism
• 11:59 To be “scientific” and “predictive” 
• 15:10 Not a rejection of social sciences
• 19:30 “Purpose matters”
• 23:40 Liberalism 
• 28:04 The Twenty Years Crisis 
• 36:00 Ideology matters
• 42:07 The China challenge
• 48:04 Sleepwalking into war?
• 55:48 Where does classical realism fall short?
• 01:02:10 Finding moral counsel