In this episode, Mike and Mike discuss legendary alt-rock drummer Dale Crover of the Melvins, who has a new project, Crystal Fairy, featuring Mars Volta’s Omar Rodriguez-Lopez. The education segment focuses on favorite sticking patterns for creating interesting rock grooves. Up for review are Tama’s super-slim Classic cymbal stand and heavy-duty Star single-tom stand. After fielding a few listener questions, the show concludes with picks of the week.Show NotesSubscribe to Modern Drummer.Mike Johnston’s website: www.mikeslessons.comThe Melvins: www.themelvins.net/Tama Classic Stand.Tama Star Single-Tom Stand.Modern Drummer Podcast With Mike and Mike is a show that explores the topics that drummers love the most. Sit in during weekly conversations between Modern Drummer managing editor, Mike Dawson, and MikesLessons.com founder and MD columnist, Mike Johnston, as they geek out on drumming technique, practice methods, and favorite exercises and offer insight on the latest gear and industry happenings. For additional episodes visit: moderndrummer.com/mikeandmikepodcast.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy