Shaun Monson is the mastermind behind EARTHLINGS, the most thorough exploration ever conducted on the interplay between nature, animals, and human economic pursuits, portraying animal torture as an acceptable act in our culture, no matter what religious, ethical, or political preference people are.

In this episode, Juliana Spicoluk, Mark Spicoluk & Shaun Monson sit down on a sunny Halloween afternoon to chat about the inspiration behind Earthlings and Unity, documentary festivals labelling his movies as propaganda, working with Joaquin Phoenix and Moby, learning from masters of the silver screen such as Orson Welles, Ridley Scott, David Fincher or Oliver Stone, traumatic knowledge, US laws on animal protection, statistics, veganism, inspiring movies such as Dances With Wolves, The Game, EO, or JFK, Henry Ford and disruptions, TikTok, Airbnb, Uber, Dr. Greger and How Not To Die, cell based meat and Beyond Meat, Covid-19, saving pigs, elephants and orcas, sanctuaries, Free Willy and Keiko movies. 

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Guest Links:
» ⁠http://www.nationearth.com⁠ 
Earthlings - 
» ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XrY2TP0ZyU⁠ 
Unity - 
» ⁠http://www.nationearth.com/unity
There was a Killing - 
» ⁠https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13423640⁠

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Show Notes:
Orson Welles -
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000080

Joaquin Phoenix - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001618

Ridley Scott - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000631

Moby - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moby.com⁠

Henry Ford -
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford

Ethan Brown - Beyond Meat - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://investors.beyondmeat.com/board-member-management/ethan-brown

Activists:
Anita Krajnc - Animal Save Movement - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thesavemovement.org

Save Elephant Foundation - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.saveelephant.org

Books: 
How Not To Die - Dr. Greger - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drgreger.org/products/how-not-to-die

The Hero’s Journey - Joseph Cambell - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/242530

Movies:
EO - Jerzy Skolimowski - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19652910

Dances with Wolves - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099348

The Game - David Fincher - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119174

JFK - Oliver Stone - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102138

Free Willy - Simon Wincer - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102138

Keiko: The Untold Story of the Star of Free Willy - 
» ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.keikotheuntoldstory.com

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Juliana Spicoluk: ⁣
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Mark Spicoluk: ⁣
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Heidi Souffriau -producer : ⁣
» https://www.heidisouffriau.com
» https://www.instagram.com/unfold.yoursoul
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00:00:00 Introduction, The Beatles and Cinematic Inspiration
00:01:35 Hollywood Contracts
00:04:00 The Start of Earthlings
00:05:08 Animal Cruelty and Human Blind Spots
00:06:10 The Power of Documentary Films
00:07:14 HBO's Interest and Opposition
00:08:28 Defending Against Propaganda Accusations
00:13:13 Animal Gassing & Animal Protection
00:23:13 Kip Andersen
00:26:31 Stories Against Statistics
00:31:00 Exploring the Power of Movies
00:34:21 Eo Movie
00:36:04 Content Consumption
00:38:21 Reflecting on Popular Movies
00:45:45 How Not To Die Movie
00:51:04 Disruption in Filmmaking and Messaging
00:57:13 Religious leaders and Their Power
01:02:25 Justice In Humanity
01:04:40 Working with Joaquin Phoenix
01:14:46 How Cattle is Raised & It's Business
01:19:49 Elephant Sanctuary
01:28:53 Use Of Antibiotics In Animals
01:33:34 JFK Documentary
01:41:40 The Orca Lolita
01:50:09 Pitching To Apple Plus