Lane chats with Rob Walling. Rob is the author of several books, including the SaaS playbook and Start Small Stay Small. He founded Drip, TinySeed and even runs MicroConf, the largest conference for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped founders. In this episode they chat about how new backend developers can use their skills in a full time job, but how those skills are also unbelievably valuable when it comes to starting companies.Rob Walling's Twitter: https://twitter.com/robwallingRob's Book, "The Saas Playbook": https://saasplaybook.com/TinySeed: https://tinyseed.com/Rob's Podcast: https://www.startupsfortherestofus.com/