Whether we are discussing same sex marriage, reproductive technologies, adoption, and even foster care, it seems we have commodified children and even weaponized their greatest wounds for selfish and political gains. For example, adoption does not exist to give adults a child. Rather, the child is the client and their needs must supersede the preferences of the adult. Why and when did this change? Kristan Hawkins chats with the founder and president of Them Before Us, where their aim is to center the child in all conversations about marriage and family and prioritize their rights over the desire of adults.   Available NOW on: ExplicitlyProLife.com or wherever you get your podcasts!  ✓ YouTube: https://bit.ly/2DiGLin ✓ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2X15zlZ ✓ Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/30ZA8tw ✓ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/30V0Kfd ✓ Stitcher: https://bit.ly/331EgvL Connect with Kristan:  ✓ Kristan's website: https://bit.ly/3zsv1os ✓ Kristan’s YouTube: https://bit.ly/3IVonKg