Dr Ellen Nelson is a military veteran, esteemed academic, and Kiwibank local hero of the year for 2023. For this special kōrero we delve into Ellen's passion for improving working conditions for parents and her campaigns advocating for flexible and inclusive workplaces.

We find out what drives Ellen, covering her bold approach to leadership, mammoth volunteer effort leading the evacuation of Afghan refugees to Aotearoa and academic achievements focusing on women's empowerment. Ellen's relatability and openness offer valuable insights as we learn from her wisdom and experiences in creating a more inclusive and balanced society

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