This week Jayson welcomes back a returning guest and good friend, Mark Divine. Together, they discuss the stages of human development, emphasizing the importance of maturing, resolving emotional issues, and achieving full integration as individuals. They cover diverse aspects, from self-connection to various spiritual paths, authentic leadership, and simplifying life for a more meaningful existence. Join Jayson and Mark for a journey into personal evolution and a reflection on the impact of technology on relationships. Timestamps: 0:46 - Guest introduction 7:04 - Levels of development 9:33 - The five stages 17:12 - Relational development  20:41 - Four frameworks 25:28 - Working on yourself through relationship 27:34 - Spiritual development 30:56 - Doing relational work as a man 36:18 - Moving from doing to being 39:14 - Is distraction a defense mechanism? 41:56 - Being present with your kids 45:11 - Digital distractions 51:51 - Making Integral Theory digestible 54:59 - Dissolving polarity 58:46 - Escaping the maze of victimhood 1:02:17 - What are Mark and Jayson up to currently? 1:05:54 - Action steps Links: #281 - Lessons From A Navy Seal During Tough Times - Mark Divine Mark Divine's Website Get 50% off your first month of relationship coaching with the promo code "First50" Enroll in Relationship Mastery Order Jayson's book: Getting to Zero Follow Jayson on social media: Instagram YouTube LinkedIn TikTok Twitter Facebook