Lorenzo Kristov and Josh Keeling join Ahlmahz and Paul to talk about maximizing the deployment of distributed energy resources but first we make them say something nice about electric utilitiesLorenzo Kristov and Josh Keeling join Ahlmahz Negash, PhD and Paul Dockery for a discussion of FERC 2222, maximizing the distribution-level customer value of distributed energy resources, international examples of unbundling the functions of distribution utilities, and 80/20 advice on how to make the most progress toward DER deployment. First, we make them compliment electric utilities.You can find the podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Share with friends that are electric utility enthusiasts, like us!12:17 - say something nice about electric utilitiesLorenzo and Josh brought a lot of great compliments and some not-so-nice compliments. Among the list of compliments they didn’t get to but shared by Josh Keeling afterward:
Pretty good at the poles and wires game
Never get confused about the differences between “useful life” and “economic life”
Captain planet-like super team of lawyers, economists, engineers, and accountants
Never scared to pilot something
Always happy to explain what “you just don’t understand” about distribution engineering
Very optimistic: can always find a way to point out how “used and useful” things are
Really good at finding new ways to apply the word “innovation”
Never too quick into something “at scale”
Really are the best of both world between trudging local government and greedy corporate monopoly
15:51 - discussion of FERC Order No. 2222
FERC order 2222
NREL summary
NARUC status update
25:05 - maximizing the distribution-level and customer value of DERs
Catalyst w/ Shayle Kahn episode on electrification40:06 - international examples of unbundling the functions of distribution utilities48:58 - 80/20 of DER interconnection
Volts episode with Saul Griffith 
Interstate Renewable Energy Council, DER interconnection best practices

1:00:05 - Ahlmahz’s insightful question of the week1:03:10 - DER for a day1:08:20 - Josh Keeling’s closing thoughtsPublic Power Underground, for electric utility enthusiasts! Public Power Underground, it’s work to watch!