Emily Grubert, PhD, Frank Incropera, PhD, Ahlmahz Negash, PhD, and Paul Dockery discuss natural gas distribution system obsolescence, energy security during the transition away from fossil fuels, the magic of heat pumps, increased reliance on electric utility reliability, and the wickedness of the problem of a just energy transition.You can find the podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Share with friends that are electric utility enthusiasts, like us!07:03 - Discussion of what constitutes a wicked problem and whether the mid-transition qualifies     - Climate Change: A Wicked Problem by Frank Incropera, PhD, Chapter 1 - Energy, economics, and climate change     - Residential Cold Climate Heat Pump Challenge | Department of Energy     - News Releases - Rheem Manufacturing Company44:57 - Natural Gas distribution systems’ obsolescence     - Designing the mid-transition: A review of medium-term challenges for coordinated decarbonization in the United States     - Grubert, E., & Hastings-Simon, S. (2022). Designing the mid-transition: A review of medium-term challenges for coordinated decarbonization in the United States. WIREs Climate Change, 13( 3), e768.59:19 - Electrification of end-uses and the need for reliability     - Climate Change: A Wicked Problem by Frank Incropera, PhD, Chapter 10 -      - The ethics of climate change1:12:03 - Ahlmahz’s insightful question of the week1:19:49 - Dr. Frank Incropera’s Closing ThoughtsPublic Power Underground, for electric utility enthusiasts! Public Power Underground, it’s work to watch!