Top 10 Internal Audit Thought Leader of 2020 and cybersecurity expert Susan Paul joins the show to talk IT audit.   With 2020 being pretty much a nightmare for everyone, we wanted to get Susan's thoughts on the high-risk IT areas to consider for 2021. We also discuss the biggest problems facing the audit profession and some good resources for staying up to date on cyber and phishing news.   Links from the show: Richard Chambers article "I Still Believe Internal Audit Shouldn't Report to the CFO" Cofense (i.e., Phishme) blog Phishing email sent to Susan from "Chase bank"   Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check out my favorite part of the interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.  Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics. * This podcast is also brought to you by AuditBoard, the leading cloud-based platform transforming how enterprises manage risk. AuditBoard’s integrated suite of easy-to-use audit, risk, and compliance solutions streamlines internal audit, SOX compliance, risk management, and security compliance. Automate processes and improve execution with AuditBoard’s purpose-built solution, which is designed to address the most pressing challenges of today's practitioners. Experience the latest in Audit, Risk, and Compliance technology. Visit AuditBoard.com to schedule your product walkthrough to see AuditBoard’s award-winning platform in action today.