Jill was part of a 3-woman vocal band in the '80s called The Life is Grand Band, and then in 1995 released Songs About Sex & Depression, and only in 2015 unveiled her long-awaited study of the dark psychology of fairy tales, A Handmade Life.

We focus on this most recent project, discussing "Letters from Murdertown" and "Eyes of Fire," and playing at the end "Walking on Glass." Our third discussion song goes back to the previous album with "Everything Makes Me Cry." Opening music is The Life Is Grand Band's "Harry’s Song" from Feel Like Makin' Art (1989).

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