Today, we talk to Juliet about what's wrong with security programs today and what security leaders should be doing to fix them. We'll discuss how security programs can look rosy... until the incident hits, and the true posture of the organization is laid bare. How can CISOs still look good and maintain the org's trust under the worst of circumstances? In this interview, Jules will tell us how.   Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-324