We are excited to have Lucas Lappe on the podcast! Lucas is a design engineer and cofounder of Doris Dev and Canopy. James and Lucas through the Quirky alumni network and discuss the dynamics of the designer vs engineer relationship. Lucas talks about collaborating with design firms and working on some amazing projects like the Lalo stroller and Canopy Humidifier. You can find us on instagram @minordetailspod, @idrawonreceipts, and @doris.dev . Special thanks to our sponsor @onshapeinc and our promotional partner @letsdesigndaily. Come join the conversation on the discord.Please support us by trying Onshape for free!Go to www.Onshape.com and sign up for the full-featured free version, make sure to put 'minor details' in the company field!If you'd like to trial the pro-version without talking to a salesperson, email our contact at kmurray@ptc.com.