Subscribe to The Realignment to access our exclusive Q&A episodes and support the show: https://realignment.supercast.com/.REALIGNMENT NEWSLETTER: https://therealignment.substack.com/PURCHASE BOOKS AT OUR BOOKSHOP: https://bookshop.org/shop/therealignmentEmail Us: realignmentpod@gmail.comFoundation for American Innovation: https://www.thefai.org/posts/lincoln-becomes-faiJennifer Pahlka, author of Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better and former U.S. Deputy Chief Technology Officer, joins The Realignment. Jennifer and Marshall discuss industrial-era culture limits government's ability to handle the challenges of the 2020s, the gap between the promise of the digital age and actual results, why the answer isn't more money or more technology, and the lessons from her time addressing governmental failure at the local, state, and federal levels.