On episode 425 of The Nurse Keith Show nursing and healthcare career podcast, Keith welcomes back Andrew Penn, MS, PMHNP to discuss the latest news in the study of the therapeutic uses of psychedelics. Among the topics discussed by Keith and Andrew are updates regarding the state of the research and the pending FDA approval of both MDMA (aka: Molly or Ecstacy) and psilocybin for the treatment of various psychological conditions, and well as how nurses may end up fitting into the psychedelic treatment paradigm.
Andrew Penn, MS, PMHNP is a Clinical Professor in the University of California, San Francisco, School of Nursing where his teaching has received the UCSF Academic Senate Distinction in Teaching Award, among other recognitions. He has practices as a psychiatric/mental health nurse practitioner, treating veterans and training residents at the San Francisco Veterans Administration Hospital.
As a researcher, Andrew collaborates on psychedelic studies of psilocybin and MDMA in the Translational Psychedelics Research (TrPR) lab at UCSF, serving as Co-PI on a phase 2 study of psilocybin for depression and is currently working on a study using psilocybin to treat depression in patients with Parkinson’s disease.
A leading voice in nursing, he is a cofounder of the Organization of Psychedelic and Entheogenic Nurses, advocating for the perspective of nurses in psychedelic therapy, he has published on psychedelics in the American Journal of Nursing, Frontiers in Psychiatry, and The Journal of Humanistic Psychotherapy.
An internationally invited speaker, he has lectured at SXSW, Aspen Health Ideas Festival, the Singapore Ministry of Health, and Oxford University, and can be found at Andrewpennnp.com.

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