Leslie Aun, VP of Communications and Public Engagement for the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) recently called Max Blumenthal and Alex Rubenstein of The Grayzone to dispute their characterization of the NED as a “CIA cutout,” although she admitted she didn’t know what the term “CIA cutout” means. In response the two journalists educated Aun about her organization’s sordid history and many of the ways the NED has served the interests of empire but with the sheen of “democracy” to protect its image. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger talk to Max about the surreal conversation and whether he felt Aun was genuinely ignorant of the subject matter. Plus a segment on a recent Israeli Freedom of Information Act request revealing that there have been zero Israeli deaths from COVID among healthy Israelis under 50. Also featuring Stef Zamorano and Mike MacRae! And phone calls from Al Pacino and dual GOP Presidential contenders Mike Pence and Ron DeSantis!