Jen's partner Lars joins her in this episode where they have a discussion about AI and art. Coming from the perspective of two creatives, they discuss the Victorian Industrial Revolution, the Beastie Boy's album Paul's Boutique, and technology's typical path in a capitalistic society. This all has a through line, we promise. ;)How can these times in the history of art and music creation inform where the future of AI and art will land?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Find Jen & Lars in the Making app: @knitpurl@Mental4LentilAlso, they forgot to add in their moment of gratitude at the end so as to continue to spread goodness in the world, here they are: LarsI am grateful for my friends. I had a moment recently watching as the pandemic is starting to slip from our collective (short-term) memory and from our day-to-day lives — mask mandates are all but gone, popular restaurants and bars are full again, many of the once-pervasive visual cues of a global pandemic are disappearing — where I felt really lucky to have the friends I do, especially during the darkest moments of the lockdowns. Friends to share concerns with, friends to distract from the horror, friends to share art and music and poetry with, friends to talk with about the books we read together, friends to feel close to even as we FaceTimed from across the country or across the world.Anyways, yeah. Feeling really grateful to and lucky to know my chosen family.JenI am grateful for the opportunities that I have given myself to stop and celebrate wins. We move so quickly sometimes that it feels like we just have to go go go. Stop and give yourself a moment of cheer. Reflect back on how far you've come, even if it feels hard to give yourself that space. You're amazing and resilient and powerful and don't you forget it. ;) Music by Despatches. ?Click! to learn more and become a member of our monthly crafty content membership, BRIGHT Collective. Download the Making app and join our amazing community of makers by visiting themakingapp.comIf you'd like to give a crafty shout-out, have a question that you'd like us to answer on the podcast, or are interested in sponsoring Making Conversation, email us at hq@makingco.com.See you in the Making app!ps- We talk about our values a lot. Just in case you're curious, take a peek.