Guests: Phil Venables (@philvenables), Vice President, Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) @ Google Cloud  Nick Godfrey, Director, Financial Services Security & Compliance and a member of Office of the CISO @ Google Cloud Topics covered: Why do you think so many CISOs of traditional organizations fear cloud migrations? What is your best advice to a CISO who wants to migrate to the cloud using the on-premise playbook, or lift and shift?  What are the real tradeoffs in this decision such as using familiar tools/practices vs cloud benefits/effectiveness?  What would you recommend reading for a CISO managing their first cloud migration Resources mentioned: Paper “CISO’s guide to Cloud Security Transformation”  Book “Building Secure and Reliable Systems: Best Practices for Designing, Implementing, and Maintaining Systems”  Book “Practical Guide to Cloud Migration”